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pecker, to sway the presidential election. does that hurt david credibility? >> i don't think so. she just said she doesn't remember being there. that's going back to testimony and events that occurred nine years ago. people's memories differ on different details, but as long as the jury believes the gist of the story, but no doubt, any kinds of inconsistencies are certainly things the jury will keep in mind as they sort through these facts and evidence. >> we have less than a minute. two questions for you. first, what impact might hicks crying on the stand and her body language have on the jury? >> it is a very intense experience, testifying in court . it seems she broke down right after the moneyline we discussed about how important it was that the story didn't come out before the election. one theory may be she just felt very badly that she delivered testimony that was very of a student to donald trump's case. >> trump claimed he wouldn't be able to testify, because of the gag order, and judge merchan quickly corrected him
pecker, to sway the presidential election. does that hurt david credibility? >> i don't think so. she just said she doesn't remember being there. that's going back to testimony and events that occurred nine years ago. people's memories differ on different details, but as long as the jury believes the gist of the story, but no doubt, any kinds of inconsistencies are certainly things the jury will keep in mind as they sort through these facts and evidence. >> we have less than a...
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in a meeting between donald trump and david pecker. critical to bragg's entire case. as usual donald trump blasting the whole thing up to record. >> the government, doj, et cetera, and in particular, this office of the d.a. which is letting violent crime run rampant all over our cities, it is a vicious, vicious, radical left lunatics, the d.a., sorrows-backed, so i just want to wish everybody a very good weekend. we have a country to build. we have to rebuild it. our country has gone to hell. we are a nation in decline. to be >> katie: that comes as alvin bragg's case against trump suffers more embarrassing setba. stormy daniels of foster's ex-davidson said he would not use the term hush money to describe -- and the case is weak. speak a precious little presented yet that trump wasn'tg above. getting this accomplished. correct me if i'm wrong. >> a lot of that is going to come from michael cohen. >> prosecutors have not proven their case, the burden by any stretch of the imagination. something that certainly has not been established thus far, eight or nine days in, wh
in a meeting between donald trump and david pecker. critical to bragg's entire case. as usual donald trump blasting the whole thing up to record. >> the government, doj, et cetera, and in particular, this office of the d.a. which is letting violent crime run rampant all over our cities, it is a vicious, vicious, radical left lunatics, the d.a., sorrows-backed, so i just want to wish everybody a very good weekend. we have a country to build. we have to rebuild it. our country has gone to...
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they started with the first witness, david pecker to lay the foundation on how all of this even came about . this deal with trump and cohen. the order that they are going in, i am not surprised. they are telling a story and they were building up to cohen being their star witness. he's got to be watching this. he's got to hear what is being said. >> i know he is watching it. i want to say that the prosecution is warning him against that. that is something that he can cause some damage on. i am not surprised by the strategy of the prosecution. >> really interesting point especially against your expertise with some of how these lawyers work. we will see both sides of it. yodit tewolde, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >>> up next, we lived there history together. i am excited about this one. that is when we come back. bac. get the rest to be your best with non-habit forming zzzquil. ♪ ♪ -unnecessary action hero ... the nemesis. -it appears that despite my forsinisterquil. efforts, employees are still managing their own hr and payroll. why would you think mere humans deserve t
they started with the first witness, david pecker to lay the foundation on how all of this even came about . this deal with trump and cohen. the order that they are going in, i am not surprised. they are telling a story and they were building up to cohen being their star witness. he's got to be watching this. he's got to hear what is being said. >> i know he is watching it. i want to say that the prosecution is warning him against that. that is something that he can cause some damage on....
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good testimony from david pecker in that regard. michael cohen is coming. that will be an interesting piece of testimony to watch and others from inside the trump organization. the key piece of this case is the documents. in many ways, it is a documents case. like anyone who writes checks for corporation and certainly for trump, who is very cautious about his own money, he would have been shown invoices, the back of documentation. the government will put that case together. >> have you noticed any missteps from the prosecution or defense? >> if you're the defense, having your client sleeping in the courtroom is not a good look. it conveys a lack of respect for the process and jurors notice every little detail. they will notice things like that. the lawyers are doing a good job. the prosecution, i think, has been very straightforward. they are simply checking off the box of the elements of proof that they have to establish that when they stand up in closing argument they can tell the jury here are the elements of the crime and here is our proof for every ele
good testimony from david pecker in that regard. michael cohen is coming. that will be an interesting piece of testimony to watch and others from inside the trump organization. the key piece of this case is the documents. in many ways, it is a documents case. like anyone who writes checks for corporation and certainly for trump, who is very cautious about his own money, he would have been shown invoices, the back of documentation. the government will put that case together. >> have you...
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pecker and michael cohen, were they set out this plan to try? try to help the campaign by catching and killing if it came to that, but keeping an ear out for negative stories, she overheard some conversations between trump and cohen about these issues when the karen mcdougal news came out and when the stormy daniel's news came out, but she didn't really give a lot of details but what helps the prosecution was a couple of things. one was just hearing about it from the campaign sayyed, fewer that erupted when the access hollywood tape came out and how nervous and concern they all were about anything else coming out in those weeks before the election that was a perspective we hadn't gotten before. she confirmed that donald trump was talking to people, especially finally, michael cohen, who was the architect of this scheme and was the one getting it done and she did confirm also, although she also said that he did care about what millennia thought, but she confirmed that this really was all about the campaign that, that is what they were concerned a
pecker and michael cohen, were they set out this plan to try? try to help the campaign by catching and killing if it came to that, but keeping an ear out for negative stories, she overheard some conversations between trump and cohen about these issues when the karen mcdougal news came out and when the stormy daniel's news came out, but she didn't really give a lot of details but what helps the prosecution was a couple of things. one was just hearing about it from the campaign sayyed, fewer that...
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we've heard a lot from david pecker, the head of the inquiry and his relationship then we heard from keith davidson, a lawyer that brokered the deal between the payments between both stormy daniels and karen mcdougall. the details were very sordid. the backgrounds are pretty sordid. it felt like every day you are being pulled through the gutter. hope hicks came in and was a different witness. it's not to say that the other ones don't have it especially focusing on david pecker, who still has some affinity for donald trump. hope hicks is paying for her own lawyer but still has a lot of affinity for donald trump. and that since she was a powerful witness. there was some hurtful information that came out to donald trump in her testimony. >> we will get into that a little bit with you. hope hicks was there under subpoena. she made it very clear she did not want to be there. she said right off the top she was nervous. did her testimony at all reveal a reluctant witness? what role do you think her testimony had showing donald trump's alleged motive in this case? >> i think everything you a
we've heard a lot from david pecker, the head of the inquiry and his relationship then we heard from keith davidson, a lawyer that brokered the deal between the payments between both stormy daniels and karen mcdougall. the details were very sordid. the backgrounds are pretty sordid. it felt like every day you are being pulled through the gutter. hope hicks came in and was a different witness. it's not to say that the other ones don't have it especially focusing on david pecker, who still has...
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and david pecker, the ceo of the company i used to work for, testified he's not a bank. he had done two of these payoffs, he had taken the doorman off the market for 30 k and then down the payment to karen mcdougal so he says to dylan howard, let them take care of it as in michael cohen and the campaign.: how to get involved with it. there is this negotiation going on with keith davidson and michael cohen to take a stormy daniels of the market, which they end up doing. >> would you say there was a panic inside the national enquirer," about this ? >> the panic was in the campaign. the panic was going on with the campaign and the corporation was asked of dylan howard to help and david pecker to help take this off the market. >> hope hicks broke out in tears. that was really pretty memorable. you were there, hugo. talk about the reaction, the moment in the courtroom when she did that. what did people think, did they think crocodile tears, did they feel sorry for her? did they feel it's just an especially stress or that she feels badly, what was the interpretation of that? >
and david pecker, the ceo of the company i used to work for, testified he's not a bank. he had done two of these payoffs, he had taken the doorman off the market for 30 k and then down the payment to karen mcdougal so he says to dylan howard, let them take care of it as in michael cohen and the campaign.: how to get involved with it. there is this negotiation going on with keith davidson and michael cohen to take a stormy daniels of the market, which they end up doing. >> would you say...
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we heard from david pecker where david pecker was exciting that donald trump was so upset when he thought these stories were getting out about karen mcdougal and he wanted to be on the phone right away. you see donald trump at the center of this. on the stormy daniels payment, for all of a sudden for donald trump to have no idea what is going on and michael cohen is handling it without letting him know, it defies common sense. i think the jury will get that. >> i have to ask you because there's always a little bit of choreography that goes on that when you and i try cases, we have an order of witnesses where we put our witnesses on, especially as prosecutors. the jury is watching the call it theater. i'm not trying to undermine what is at stake but it is theater and there's drama and when hope hicks whipped out of the tears right at the beginning of her cross by emil bove, i think they are crocodile tears. i didn't buy them at all. i want to get your take and what you thought about the power or the lack there of of those tears. >> it was an interesting moment. there are different theories
we heard from david pecker where david pecker was exciting that donald trump was so upset when he thought these stories were getting out about karen mcdougal and he wanted to be on the phone right away. you see donald trump at the center of this. on the stormy daniels payment, for all of a sudden for donald trump to have no idea what is going on and michael cohen is handling it without letting him know, it defies common sense. i think the jury will get that. >> i have to ask you because...
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hicks says she are remembers seeing pecker at trump tower buzz doesn't recall a meeting -- but doesn't recall a meeting. she also said michael cohen injected himself into campaign activities saying cohen liked to call himself mr. fix-it, but hicks said things only needed fox 5 at 5ing -- fixing because cohen broke them first. trump claimed a recording cuts off and is misleading. now, neil, we also have confirmed that trump has paid $9,000 in fines related to 9 separate gag order violations. while entering court on friday, trump said e his lawyers are going to file a challenge of the gag order because they believe that it's unconstitutional. the trial resumes monday morning at 9:30 with a new witness on the stand. we'll send it back to you, neil. neil: all right. we'll find out who that new witness might be. michael cohen will be testifying himself. john yoo is with with us now, uc-berkeley law professor, former justice thomas law clerk. he me ask you firsten on the bag order, an interesting development that struck me, the prosecution wanted to maybe take this a little further and cite
hicks says she are remembers seeing pecker at trump tower buzz doesn't recall a meeting -- but doesn't recall a meeting. she also said michael cohen injected himself into campaign activities saying cohen liked to call himself mr. fix-it, but hicks said things only needed fox 5 at 5ing -- fixing because cohen broke them first. trump claimed a recording cuts off and is misleading. now, neil, we also have confirmed that trump has paid $9,000 in fines related to 9 separate gag order violations....
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david pecker very strong. keith davidson and hope hicks. as a reporter, there were reporter moments that stood out. this is a trial that involves a lot of dealings with the media. the national enquirer, the wall street journal or the washington post. there were some moments, one in particular, i dealt with trump and hope hicks over the campaign. over the last eight years as a reporter covering him, that moment when david from the washington post sent over an email at 1:29 in the afternoon, that moment. weeks before the election and he has the access hollywood tape and is asking for comment and he says that there is vulgar language in here and he puts the transcript below and hope hicks's instinct, she denied, deny, deny, deny, the first instinct is to live. that is the campaign that i know. not only was donald trump involved in every aspect, hope hicks was taking notes and learning from him. they live. that is their first instinct. to see an email like that without even running it down, i want to make sure that i get everything right, i get
david pecker very strong. keith davidson and hope hicks. as a reporter, there were reporter moments that stood out. this is a trial that involves a lot of dealings with the media. the national enquirer, the wall street journal or the washington post. there were some moments, one in particular, i dealt with trump and hope hicks over the campaign. over the last eight years as a reporter covering him, that moment when david from the washington post sent over an email at 1:29 in the afternoon, that...
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the prosecutor yesterday hicks on the stand the about meeting david pecker, hicks said she did not recall participating in a meeting where pecker promised to help the trump campaign. hicks also said trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, injected helps into campaign activities when he was instructed only to focus on trump's business credentials. hicks claimed cohen liked to call himself mr. fix-it but he only fixed things after breaking them first. also trump paid $9,000 worth of fines after the judge ruled he violated the gag order multiple times, even threatening jail time if he willfully violates it again, so yesterday trump focused on politics. watch. >> -- years, the democrats, the radical left, navy been after us for -- they've been after us for years, and they've been screwing people's lives. they've gone out and hired lawyers for years. been sucked dry. and it's a shame. it's a shame, what they've done to this country. >> reporter: trump's unprecedented trial, guys, resigns monday morning -- resumes monday morning, 9:30 a.m., a new prosecution witness on the stand. pete: appreciate
the prosecutor yesterday hicks on the stand the about meeting david pecker, hicks said she did not recall participating in a meeting where pecker promised to help the trump campaign. hicks also said trump's former lawyer, michael cohen, injected helps into campaign activities when he was instructed only to focus on trump's business credentials. hicks claimed cohen liked to call himself mr. fix-it but he only fixed things after breaking them first. also trump paid $9,000 worth of fines after the...
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signif >>ic but i think the significant thing is that david pecker, when he testifie davidd, the the head of ami and the tabloidit said that he didn't discuss this with donald trump and he certainly didn't discus s. was a >> the fact that this was a campaign contribution, davidson would not you just said agree it was hush money. >> he said it was consideration, which money, was of a contract. >> and he denied it was hush money. and then today we had hope hicks. hope hict lay finger on donald trump. o we're in day 11 withs, and n the ninth witness, and nobody has touched donald trump.at tel >> so what this tells mels tha is that michael cohen is theere. key here. >> and trump and his lawyersinkh will destroy him. i think there's something very important to go back to whener i a fundamental the people have the obligation to prove this cas e a reasonable doubtable out to 12 people. it's got to be a unanimous verdic tme t. >> and if there is an explanation other than what theo prosecution suggests, that is that is reasonablen doubt right there. so hope hicks said today abat trump, when h
signif >>ic but i think the significant thing is that david pecker, when he testifie davidd, the the head of ami and the tabloidit said that he didn't discuss this with donald trump and he certainly didn't discus s. was a >> the fact that this was a campaign contribution, davidson would not you just said agree it was hush money. >> he said it was consideration, which money, was of a contract. >> and he denied it was hush money. and then today we had hope hicks. hope hict...
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pecker, when it was agreed that mr pecker would buy and suppress negative stories about trump — including alleged affairs — to help boost his campaign. the prosecution has been building its case with a range of witnesses so far. the court heard from a forensic analyst who examined the contacts and messages on the phone of mr trump's former lawyer, michael cohen. and it heard from a staffer from the new york da's office who reviewed trump's social media posts for the trial. our correspondent nada tawfik is in new york she is the first person who worked directly with donald trump to testify. and, you know, we didn't really have to guess how she felt about taking the stand. she said once she got on that she was really nervous and even broke down in tears at one point, which the court took a short break. but look, hope hicks has depicted donald trump as somebody who was across all of the media statements that she worked on, was very much a part of his press strategy and all of the statements that went out. so somebody that was very in tune with how the press coverage would be affecting him
pecker, when it was agreed that mr pecker would buy and suppress negative stories about trump — including alleged affairs — to help boost his campaign. the prosecution has been building its case with a range of witnesses so far. the court heard from a forensic analyst who examined the contacts and messages on the phone of mr trump's former lawyer, michael cohen. and it heard from a staffer from the new york da's office who reviewed trump's social media posts for the trial. our correspondent...
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david pecker was two-and-a-half days, but i'll do that. >> cohen will be on the stand for four days. yeah including direct and cross-examination. >> but other than michael cohen. okay. stormy daniel's is a maybe karen mcdougal's or maybe kellyanne conway is or maybe trading tending towards no less litter saying unlikely. how long are they going to be mean hope hicks was three hours today, maybe a little more. you'll probably have a few more of these document custodian type witnesses, the interns and the da's investigators, but this is moving neither sayyed is dragging their feet. the direct exams are as they should be direct and focus defense lawyers sometimes like to drag out these endless cross-examinations, but both todd, blanche, and emil bove air or former prosecutors, they just have gotten right to the point this is moving quickly and efficiently. >> i did something today that they've the trump team has never done, which is stipulate, which basically agreed that the sky is blue and the prosecutors and the defense both agree. and so that is the sense within the teams that i also
david pecker was two-and-a-half days, but i'll do that. >> cohen will be on the stand for four days. yeah including direct and cross-examination. >> but other than michael cohen. okay. stormy daniel's is a maybe karen mcdougal's or maybe kellyanne conway is or maybe trading tending towards no less litter saying unlikely. how long are they going to be mean hope hicks was three hours today, maybe a little more. you'll probably have a few more of these document custodian type...
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we're going to have to call pecker. yeah, well, let let definitely do that. >> i haven't spoken to david in a long time. you know, judge merchan just ruled that the trial will on april 15th. oh, my god. mike, i mean, what's so what's so outrageous about this is he could go on and trash trump. but under judge one, roseanne's obviously unconstitutional gag order, trump can't respond to this goofball. i have a question for you. how long will conceivably go on? nothing. tiktok. begging for money by cohen. but this trial, given pace of things so far, how long do you think it'll go? i think it's i think this could get wrapped up in the next within the next two weeks. i that they're railroading president trump in new york, you have this soros funded manhattan d.a. bringing bringing in matthew from the biden justice department, the number three office to bring this bogus case. >> you have this biased manhattan democrat judge who donated to biden, who is a you only need one juror, one juror. and it have never been brought. it's
we're going to have to call pecker. yeah, well, let let definitely do that. >> i haven't spoken to david in a long time. you know, judge merchan just ruled that the trial will on april 15th. oh, my god. mike, i mean, what's so what's so outrageous about this is he could go on and trash trump. but under judge one, roseanne's obviously unconstitutional gag order, trump can't respond to this goofball. i have a question for you. how long will conceivably go on? nothing. tiktok. begging for...
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maybe a david pecker, michael cohen, if he starts crying fine that'll be totally if i mean, they would love that. but, you have to pick your moments and a witness like hope hicks, who obviously she's there under subpoena. she doesn't want to be there. she's being forced to be there. you can't go after it's also very intriguing to you had talked about strategies of defense attorneys and prosecutors about when they put a witness on right before the weekend, who do you put on so do you put on somebody that you want the jury to think about all weekend? >> i mean, the jury has a lot to think about this weekend. i mean, they are relatively short witness. >> my point was yesterday, hypothetically, let's just say they did all direct today and a little bit across i mean, there has been plenty of times where i have tapped, aunts talking about being in the theater at the end of the de on a friday or the end of the day at any day to give me overnight to prepare my cross-examination for the next morning the biggest tool the prosecutor has in their toolbox is the elements surprise. most of the time,
maybe a david pecker, michael cohen, if he starts crying fine that'll be totally if i mean, they would love that. but, you have to pick your moments and a witness like hope hicks, who obviously she's there under subpoena. she doesn't want to be there. she's being forced to be there. you can't go after it's also very intriguing to you had talked about strategies of defense attorneys and prosecutors about when they put a witness on right before the weekend, who do you put on so do you put on...
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pecker, head of the fbi donald trump. i mean, do you believe that i'll just say this. anybody who's been prepped very well by an attorney has been told over and over again that there's never anything wrong with saying that you don't recall or you don't remember? she does have a great memory. she's a very, very intelligent woman. and so when i heard that it didn't surprise me, i think a few weeks ago i even maybe had said that i i thought that she would probably do a lot of i don't recalls one take do want say was that i do think that she really did in part to the jury that people don't maybe know yet, but you don't go row with donald trump. >> and so i know that that's a thing that the defense is going to try to say is that michael cohen went rogue. you do not go so road with him and it reminded me listening to her or listening to the news. tell me about her. that when i was traveling with the press on the campaign, i would literally have to ask her if i could tell the press that we're going to be somewhere the next day,
pecker, head of the fbi donald trump. i mean, do you believe that i'll just say this. anybody who's been prepped very well by an attorney has been told over and over again that there's never anything wrong with saying that you don't recall or you don't remember? she does have a great memory. she's a very, very intelligent woman. and so when i heard that it didn't surprise me, i think a few weeks ago i even maybe had said that i i thought that she would probably do a lot of i don't recalls one...
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and we have the david pecker testimony. really tying this to the fact that this is an election interference case. which i think makes him more compelling. indicating that this was an effort to keep information from the voting public. she said it was a crisis in the campaign after the access hollywood tape trial. >> the theater on how donald trump performs to me is more interesting than the evidence of trial. >> but do you not think there is any theater of hope hicks? she was crying, she was fragile. she was the person one inch away from him all four years. right? during child separation. during charlottesville. january 6th. i'm not sure i buy this fragile engenue up there. she sat beside him the whole time. >> that is why i think it is a difficult moment. think of what she must have experienced. willingly, yes. but still. that doesn't, a lot of people have trouble with a sort of, i don't want to get into the cross this line. but an abusive sort of dynamic. a toxic dynamic. >> maybe she was all in. >> she is testifying again
and we have the david pecker testimony. really tying this to the fact that this is an election interference case. which i think makes him more compelling. indicating that this was an effort to keep information from the voting public. she said it was a crisis in the campaign after the access hollywood tape trial. >> the theater on how donald trump performs to me is more interesting than the evidence of trial. >> but do you not think there is any theater of hope hicks? she was crying,...
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pecker and mr. davidson. at the trial, in terms of evidence, i was thinking about what she said was devastating, and there's no question that her crying would underscore to the jury my view that she was not there because she wanted to help the government, that she had all loyalty for the trump organization. so it was going to make it impossible for the defense to actually say that she was lying to help the government and to hurt donald trump. that's not why you cry. i just thought it in some ways was an exclamation point to what had just happened in court, which was, i think, just very much a very, very difficult witness for the defense to be able to overcome. >> we are just getting started. we're going to fit in a quick break right here and be right back with more. right here and b back with more you can't leave without cuddles. but, you also can't leave covered in hair. with bounce pet, you can cuddle and brush that hair off. bounce, it's the sheet. ♪♪ missing out on the things you love becaus
pecker and mr. davidson. at the trial, in terms of evidence, i was thinking about what she said was devastating, and there's no question that her crying would underscore to the jury my view that she was not there because she wanted to help the government, that she had all loyalty for the trump organization. so it was going to make it impossible for the defense to actually say that she was lying to help the government and to hurt donald trump. that's not why you cry. i just thought it in some...
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his former advisor, hope hicks, took the stand, testifying t that she didn't recall david pecker, who ran "the national enquirer" agreeing to help the trump campaign. hicks also dumped coldhelp the r on the prosecution's star witness, the admitted liarstar michael cohen, saying he often inserted himself into campaign activities. hope hicks told the court, quote, he used to like to call himself mister fix i mt, but it was only because he first broke it. all in all, a pretty good dayal foin goor trump. t >>ha he's saying tgif and the government, doj, etc., etc.. and in particular, likely this office india, which is letting w crime, violent crime runhi rampanch t all over our city, is aciou lucious, vicious, radical left-wing lunatics. the d.a. saw a soros ban.o sowi i just want to wish everybody a very good weekend and good weekend. >> and for all the chaosl surrounding the highly politicized case, itof the does seem to be moving the needlebe with voters and majority. they're not evenng the ne with paying attention to them. >> it's just more white noise surroundinn. g the andlectio more
his former advisor, hope hicks, took the stand, testifying t that she didn't recall david pecker, who ran "the national enquirer" agreeing to help the trump campaign. hicks also dumped coldhelp the r on the prosecution's star witness, the admitted liarstar michael cohen, saying he often inserted himself into campaign activities. hope hicks told the court, quote, he used to like to call himself mister fix i mt, but it was only because he first broke it. all in all, a pretty good dayal...
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going back to the tabloid chief david pecker. hicks testifying she asked because trump wanted to speak. with him. so she connected the two of them. but she did more than that. she also connected the dots. if this sounds like it is bad and damning evidence against donald trump, it is. i would remind you that just because it sounds bad doesn't mean the story is over or he is guilty. he is legally presumed innocent and they have to use the high bar of beyond a reasonable doubt for 12 people. so if they convince ten or 11 people that it really happened and it amounts to this crime, they need all 12. we are not saying it is it more likely than not. we are looking at how this evidence moved with the jury. we have melissa and andrew here as part of our special leading us off when we are back in 90 seconds. back in 90 seconds. when you have chronic kidney disease, there are places you'd like to be. like here. and here. not so much here. farxiga reduces the risk of kidney failure which can lead to dialysis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ ♪♪ farxig
going back to the tabloid chief david pecker. hicks testifying she asked because trump wanted to speak. with him. so she connected the two of them. but she did more than that. she also connected the dots. if this sounds like it is bad and damning evidence against donald trump, it is. i would remind you that just because it sounds bad doesn't mean the story is over or he is guilty. he is legally presumed innocent and they have to use the high bar of beyond a reasonable doubt for 12 people. so if...
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he was talking to david pecker he she could take us through the timeline from the campaign his view of how this happened and how the narrative change no, the first thing out was a fair never happened, pay off, never happened. then it was okay. well, the pay off never happened. then it was okay. well, the payoff happened, but michael cohen didn't and i didn't do it. i mean, she took us through all of that dishonest all of that was and how might cohen was the one who would have and then the last thing that's so helpful is can you imagine that michael cohen really would have painted themselves without trump knowing she says, nope can't imagine that. that's golden. mine was you expand that and know as event defense council has a prosecutors well, but would you spun that does suggest that he wouldn't have done it for any reason other than not maybe direction of trump. >> but self-gain. remember, we've heard testimony that he says he was shocked that he wasn't going to washington, dc after all that, he's done one you'd probably the ministration. >> could you see the defense council saying we
he was talking to david pecker he she could take us through the timeline from the campaign his view of how this happened and how the narrative change no, the first thing out was a fair never happened, pay off, never happened. then it was okay. well, the pay off never happened. then it was okay. well, the payoff happened, but michael cohen didn't and i didn't do it. i mean, she took us through all of that dishonest all of that was and how might cohen was the one who would have and then the last...
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i overheard conversations between trump and david pecker around this time about these things. the jury believes that they are taking these points at the prosecutors are trying to build now, she doesn't get the prosecutors across the finish line or even close on the main craft i'm which is the falsification of business records. we still have to see that, but honestly, this part about was it about the election she's scored points for the prosecution there and that to me is a slam dunk. this notion that just because she said trump was also worried about what his wife thought, who cares, there's so much overwhelming evidence that this was about the election. all they have to do is show that that was a substantial part of it. i think that part is done. >> but thing is to anyone quick break but substantial is not quantified in new york's the idea of saying what substantial two you might be. well, it had to be 99% were in favor of melania and 1% of the campaign. but that's not actually quantifies got to be polymorphic with 50%. but this jury is going to have to think about what they
i overheard conversations between trump and david pecker around this time about these things. the jury believes that they are taking these points at the prosecutors are trying to build now, she doesn't get the prosecutors across the finish line or even close on the main craft i'm which is the falsification of business records. we still have to see that, but honestly, this part about was it about the election she's scored points for the prosecution there and that to me is a slam dunk. this...
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pecker and you could have done with respect to mr. davidson. at the trial, in terms of evidence, i was thinking about what she said was devastating and there's no question that her crying would underscore to the jury, my view, that she was not there because she wanted to help the government, that she had all loyalty for the trump organization and so it was going to make it impossible for the defense to actually say that she was lying to help the government and to hurt donald trump. that is not why you cry. i just thought it was an exclamation to what had just happened in court, which was i think just very much a very difficult witness for the defense to be able to overcome. >> we are just getting started. we will fit in a quick break right here and be right back with more. with more. with the freestyle libre 3 system know your glucose and where it's heading no fingersticks needed. now the world's smallest and thinnest sensor sends your glucose levels directly to your smartphone. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower your
pecker and you could have done with respect to mr. davidson. at the trial, in terms of evidence, i was thinking about what she said was devastating and there's no question that her crying would underscore to the jury, my view, that she was not there because she wanted to help the government, that she had all loyalty for the trump organization and so it was going to make it impossible for the defense to actually say that she was lying to help the government and to hurt donald trump. that is not...
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the most powerful witness so far, i hope hicks was powerful, but david pecker. he was talking to trump at every turn of this. and it was very powerful. he put him right in the center of it. they had an agreement to embellish stories that were bad about donald trump's rivals. that story deserved a pulitzer. but also the catch and kill scheme, and david pecker knew about the cover-up . he was in the middle of arranging those deals with women. and all that is so important, because he was aware of it and testified to it. >> you have a real principle whose repetition has not been impugned, it is buttress by trump world insiders. i've got to ask, because the prosecution has lined up so much data if you will, in their favor. will trump take the stand? >> i would think at this point he would not take the stand. despite the fact the prosecution is doing well, and i think they are getting even homeruns here and there. there is still a big lift ahead. this is not just a misdemeanor, and that would be a loss here. not to get too far ahead of ourselves. it's really all or no
the most powerful witness so far, i hope hicks was powerful, but david pecker. he was talking to trump at every turn of this. and it was very powerful. he put him right in the center of it. they had an agreement to embellish stories that were bad about donald trump's rivals. that story deserved a pulitzer. but also the catch and kill scheme, and david pecker knew about the cover-up . he was in the middle of arranging those deals with women. and all that is so important, because he was aware of...
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as jurors heard last week from david pecker himself. william: what did she detail about cohen's then subsequent negotiations with stormy daniels? andrea: she didn't know a lot about it. but there was interesting testimony about how when the story actually breaks, trump is in the white house. and michael cohen, "the wall street journal," the same reporters do another story. it's now over a year later. they detail everything regarding stormy daniels. and trump tells her that michael cohen did this on his own out of the goodness of his heart. the prosecution asked, does that sound like the michael cohen you know? and she basically said no. she did not know him to be a charitable person. and she sort of sniffed out the story. but she left the white house not long after. went to fox news. before actually coming back to work in the white house for trump in 2020. william: and what did the -- what did trump's legal team do? how did they handal witness like her? this is someone very, very close to the former president. andrea: right. her testimo
as jurors heard last week from david pecker himself. william: what did she detail about cohen's then subsequent negotiations with stormy daniels? andrea: she didn't know a lot about it. but there was interesting testimony about how when the story actually breaks, trump is in the white house. and michael cohen, "the wall street journal," the same reporters do another story. it's now over a year later. they detail everything regarding stormy daniels. and trump tells her that michael...
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it's all good, which is what david pecker testified. this collaboration of what we have already heard from from david pecker showing donald trump is right in the center of this. >> and hope hicks, part of what was fascinating to me again as i was reading this through our internal slack channel, it was a reminder of the sheer chaos and crisis and almost tipping point moment of the access hollywood tape and the fact that that article that does come out before the election ultimately ends up spaced out in of that it wouldn't, like if that had come out the day after access hollywood or two days after or three days after, that could have been it. you were there covering it, that could have been it. >> they got lucky with the timing of that. also, remember at that time, it is easy to forget, i have repressed a lot of it, i think most americans have, it was one allegation after another. it was more than two dozen allegations that he had some sort of sexual impropriety and it was just one thing after another. they are running against hillary cl
it's all good, which is what david pecker testified. this collaboration of what we have already heard from from david pecker showing donald trump is right in the center of this. >> and hope hicks, part of what was fascinating to me again as i was reading this through our internal slack channel, it was a reminder of the sheer chaos and crisis and almost tipping point moment of the access hollywood tape and the fact that that article that does come out before the election ultimately ends up...
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. >> we're going to have to call david pecker. >> let's definitely do that. i haven't spoken to david in a long time. you know? judge merchan just ruled the trial will start april 15. >> laura: mike -- >> what is so outrageous about this, he could go on and trash trump but under merchan's gag order, trump can't respond to this goof ball. >> laura: i have a question for you. how long will this conceivably go on? not the tik tok begging for money by cohen but this trail? how long you think it will go? >> i think this could get wrapped up in the next two weeks. i think they're railroading president trump in new york. you have coangelo brings this bogus cased the biassed manhattan democratic judge that dough florida stated to biden -- >> laura: you only need one juror. should have never been brought. its a scam and sham case. one juror. how anyone could find just being fair and applying the law as it is, i don't see how any of these jurors could -- any of these good conscious say anything but not guilty to this. mike, always great to be with you. especially on a
. >> we're going to have to call david pecker. >> let's definitely do that. i haven't spoken to david in a long time. you know? judge merchan just ruled the trial will start april 15. >> laura: mike -- >> what is so outrageous about this, he could go on and trash trump but under merchan's gag order, trump can't respond to this goof ball. >> laura: i have a question for you. how long will this conceivably go on? not the tik tok begging for money by cohen but this...
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david pecker had given a link with respect to karen mcdougall and the door man, but the case is really about the stormy daniels payments. hope hicks, a reluctant witness, who tearfully said, this is from within the trump campaign, said he -- donald trump told her that he was aware that michael cohen had made these hush money payments. he tried to say he only learned after the fact, which by the way doesn't matter. as long as he learned it and knew it before he was making all of these reimbursement payments, that's good enough. >> right. >> hope hicks not only said did he know it -- >> if you reimburse someone for buying you crack, you're still on the hook. >> yup. and so she gave that -- she also suggested she didn't believe donald trump's story that this was something that michael cohen did out of the goodness of his heart. she said, you know, that's not who he is and he likes to take credit for things. she also said i don't really believe that story in words or substance. it doesn't matter. you are going to hear from the da. doesn't matter whether she believes him or not, because as
david pecker had given a link with respect to karen mcdougall and the door man, but the case is really about the stormy daniels payments. hope hicks, a reluctant witness, who tearfully said, this is from within the trump campaign, said he -- donald trump told her that he was aware that michael cohen had made these hush money payments. he tried to say he only learned after the fact, which by the way doesn't matter. as long as he learned it and knew it before he was making all of these...
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. >> former top doj official michael co-angelo questioned hicks about meeting david pecker, the ceo of american media. hicks testified that she remembers seeing pecker at trump tower but doesn't recall a meeting where pecker agreed to help the trump campaign. hicks also testified that michael cohen often inserted himself in to campaign activities. telling the court "he used to like to call himself mr. fix-it. it was only because he first broke it." today trump claimed a reporting from cohen's phone showing a conversation about financing the stormy daniels payment is misleading. posting on truth social the tape played yesterday and discussed today while good for my case was cut off at the end in the early stages of something very positive that i was in the midst of saying. why was it cut off? >> shannon, we're learning tonight that trump met his deadline and paid a $9,000 fine for nine separate gag order violations. he said while entering court today that his lawyers planned to challenge the order because they believe that it's unconstitutional. the trial will resume monday morning at 9
. >> former top doj official michael co-angelo questioned hicks about meeting david pecker, the ceo of american media. hicks testified that she remembers seeing pecker at trump tower but doesn't recall a meeting where pecker agreed to help the trump campaign. hicks also testified that michael cohen often inserted himself in to campaign activities. telling the court "he used to like to call himself mr. fix-it. it was only because he first broke it." today trump claimed a...
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pecker as well, trump brought it up a lot first, it was the fact that he was worried about what ivanka or meloni would think of him if these stories had gotten out in the national enquirer, then it moved to what would happen with the campaign. >> and that's holds true today. >> donald trump cares what other people well, think about him. that's why he has to react when somebody says he's sleeping in court because he has to show that he was not sleeping in court. he believes that everything impacts his image. he wants to control the media narrative if something negative comes out, he wants to take control of that. so it's not surprising that someone who is literally part of almost every conversation at the time would have such to deep knowledge of the fact that donald trump is really obsessed with how people view him. >> good point that jim trusty, how do you see it differently? >> i mean, look, anyone that's running for national office is certainly going to be a little introspective to use. >> maybe the kindest word about what's happening in their lives and what the focus this is i thin
pecker as well, trump brought it up a lot first, it was the fact that he was worried about what ivanka or meloni would think of him if these stories had gotten out in the national enquirer, then it moved to what would happen with the campaign. >> and that's holds true today. >> donald trump cares what other people well, think about him. that's why he has to react when somebody says he's sleeping in court because he has to show that he was not sleeping in court. he believes that...
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we've heard from david pecker about his perspective on the relationship between the hush money scheme and the campaign and from the national enquirer, we heard from stormy daniel's is lawyer keith davidson about his perspective. now we've heard from hope hicks, right? so we have really principles involved in this transaction from every angle, really unanimous on this point evidently. and i think that it's a key point for the prosecution and a good day for them. >> important point of d, glory is bored jurors with us as well. let's watch gloria trump's reaction outside the courtroom, just a little while ago. well watch this i'm not allowed to comment on any of that as you know, i'm under a gag going i was very interested in what took. >> place today so gloria, what does that tell you? >> and as someone who's covered, who picks and trump for that matter, what stood out to you today? >> well, what stood out to me was first of all, she was under subpoena and didn't really want to be there. and at the end of the day, i wasn't quite sure whether she was more helpful to the prosecution then t
we've heard from david pecker about his perspective on the relationship between the hush money scheme and the campaign and from the national enquirer, we heard from stormy daniel's is lawyer keith davidson about his perspective. now we've heard from hope hicks, right? so we have really principles involved in this transaction from every angle, really unanimous on this point evidently. and i think that it's a key point for the prosecution and a good day for them. >> important point of d,...
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david pecker didn't cry. you know, he did the same thing. donald is sitting right over there and it's come to jesus time. it really is. look, we all have to live under the rule of law. i hate to tell him that, but it's true. being able to kind of talk your way out of everything or delay, delay, delay, which is what people who are guilty do, is -- you know, at least in this particular case with this particular trial, he's got to sit at that table. there's a judge. as you guys have been saying, he's not in control now. charlie is the same way. he thinks he can handle this and get his way out of it. then, as we find out, he can't. we'll see what happens with donald. this is costing him. i know this is costing him where i live in michigan. this is costing him votes. >> is it the sense that he has a different set of operating rules? you're so good at sort of banging our head into the reality that people going about their lives are not following everything in the trump story. is it this bigger thing where he thinks he's getting away with stuff tha
david pecker didn't cry. you know, he did the same thing. donald is sitting right over there and it's come to jesus time. it really is. look, we all have to live under the rule of law. i hate to tell him that, but it's true. being able to kind of talk your way out of everything or delay, delay, delay, which is what people who are guilty do, is -- you know, at least in this particular case with this particular trial, he's got to sit at that table. there's a judge. as you guys have been saying,...
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it seemed to me, unlike the demeanor were hearing about when say david pecker, who was someone who knew for decades it wasn't like somebody who is who knew everything about them, although he certainly had a relationship with them it took a very different scenario and i couldn't help but wonder, given that hope hicks at first come into the family operation through his own daughter, ivanka. they're not that far apart in age, frankly ivanka and hope hicks, although hope hicks is younger, and i couldn't help but think of bout the fact that she was being brought in and part as a kind of character witness in the way that rhona had benton, the right-hand woman of donald trump. >> they both talked about him and being having their trust and respect. >> they both talked about their relationship, the excitement and what she called chaos, but a good pass at times. >> but then and there was this moment fell when she described the access hollywood tape and the fallout as a crisis. >> it she wasn't mincing words. >> she wasn't trying to hedge and suggest i mean, wasn't a thing. i mean, i guess it was
it seemed to me, unlike the demeanor were hearing about when say david pecker, who was someone who knew for decades it wasn't like somebody who is who knew everything about them, although he certainly had a relationship with them it took a very different scenario and i couldn't help but wonder, given that hope hicks at first come into the family operation through his own daughter, ivanka. they're not that far apart in age, frankly ivanka and hope hicks, although hope hicks is younger, and i...
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she said she didn't recall being in that 2015 meeting with donald trump and david pecker to discuss the so—called catch and kill scheme. but she did say that when the access hollywood tape came out that the campaign was in crisis and that the campaign was in crisis and that donald trump was concerned about how it would affect him with voters. and he was involved all with every single press statement that came out in the campaign, he was a want really took the lead devising his campaign strategy. when it came to the actual stormy daniel hush money payment she said that donald trump was concerned about how his wife would take that news. and that trump had told her that michael cohen paid that hush money payment out of the kindness of his own heart. hope hicks did say that that seemed out of character for michael cohen to do that because he is not exactly that charitable.— cohen to do that because he is not exactly that charitable. nada, thank ou for exactly that charitable. nada, thank you for explaining — exactly that charitable. nada, thank you for explaining that. _ exactly that
she said she didn't recall being in that 2015 meeting with donald trump and david pecker to discuss the so—called catch and kill scheme. but she did say that when the access hollywood tape came out that the campaign was in crisis and that the campaign was in crisis and that donald trump was concerned about how it would affect him with voters. and he was involved all with every single press statement that came out in the campaign, he was a want really took the lead devising his campaign...
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then we're going into asking about david pecker, and you met david pecker before trump org, and you had a sense of who he was, yes. trump gives a lot of feedback, she's asked, yes, he does. let me bring in -- actually, we'll have you ashley in a moment. i want to get back to you yasmin. when you spoke with us ten minutes ago, and you said it was the hope they would wrap up with the prosecution, and yet they have had to pivot to defense because it's just enough time to at least get this going. what are you hearing from inside the courtroom? >> reporter: i think there's a point to be made here about hope hicks credibility, and that is she is one of the only witnesses without a quote unquote kind of shady past, right. we know the way the defense has gone about this is every time someone has taken the stand that has some sort of a shady past, for instance, davidson, right, hope hicks, excuse me, stormy daniels, karen mcdougal's attorneys, they would kind of get into the shady past of davidson and the clients he took on, tried to cut into the credibility of every witness or potential witness
then we're going into asking about david pecker, and you met david pecker before trump org, and you had a sense of who he was, yes. trump gives a lot of feedback, she's asked, yes, he does. let me bring in -- actually, we'll have you ashley in a moment. i want to get back to you yasmin. when you spoke with us ten minutes ago, and you said it was the hope they would wrap up with the prosecution, and yet they have had to pivot to defense because it's just enough time to at least get this going....
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also asked her about meeting former american media ceo david pecker. hicks for members seeing packer at trump tower but she did not remember participating in the meeting where packer agreed to help the trump campaign. trump is disputing evidence presented by the da's office showing a recording with he and michael ko in discussing the payment for stormy daniels deal. trump posted on true social this was just as the afternoon session began, the tape played yesterday and discussed today while good for my case was cut off at the end in the early stages of something very positive that i was in the midst of saying. what was it or why was it cut off? the digital expert who extracted data from michael cohen's cell phone said today that some level of trust in cohen will be needed for certain information from his cell phone. trump steen says cohen is a proven liar and an unreliable witness cackles 1 more thing regarding the gag order trump steen plans to challenge the gag order saying that it is unconstitutional. will send it back to you. >> talk with that with
also asked her about meeting former american media ceo david pecker. hicks for members seeing packer at trump tower but she did not remember participating in the meeting where packer agreed to help the trump campaign. trump is disputing evidence presented by the da's office showing a recording with he and michael ko in discussing the payment for stormy daniels deal. trump posted on true social this was just as the afternoon session began, the tape played yesterday and discussed today while good...
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the room for a key meeting between donald trump, michael cohen and former national enquirer publisher david pecker, when it was agreed that mr pepper would buy that mr pecker would buy and suppress negative stories about trump — including alleged affairs — to help boost his campaign. 0ur correspondent nada tawfik is in new york. there's been some dramatic testimony today. the end of week three. explain what we heard from hope hicks. keep the end of week three. explain what we heard from hope hicks.— we heard from hope hicks. keep in mind she is — we heard from hope hicks. keep in mind she is the _ we heard from hope hicks. keep in mind she is the first _ we heard from hope hicks. keep in mind she is the first person - we heard from hope hicks. keep in mind she is the first person who i mind she is the first person who worked directly with donald trump to testify. we didn't really have to guess as she felt about taking the stand. she said once she got all that she was really nervous. and even broke down in tears in one point in which the court took a short break. hope hicks has depic
the room for a key meeting between donald trump, michael cohen and former national enquirer publisher david pecker, when it was agreed that mr pepper would buy that mr pecker would buy and suppress negative stories about trump — including alleged affairs — to help boost his campaign. 0ur correspondent nada tawfik is in new york. there's been some dramatic testimony today. the end of week three. explain what we heard from hope hicks. keep the end of week three. explain what we heard from...
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the two were discussing how to handle repaying national enquirer publisher david pecker for squashing allegations by former playboy model karen mcdougal of her alleged affair with trump. but just how damaging the recording can be for trump's defense remains unclear, having reported evidence with donald trump's voice is pretty evidence against him. >> i don't think that the president first of all, said enough, said enough that that is damaging. >> whether the former president will testify in the trial himself remains unclear, elissa harrington testified. no, he won't stop me from testimony. >> the gag order is not for testify. the gag order stops me from talking about people and responding when they say things about me. we have people saying things about me, and i'm not allowed to respond. the audio recordings are setting the stage for the key witness in the trial to testify, and that will be michael cohen at manhattan criminal court. >> i'm eric shawn, ktvu, fox two news. >> the fbi has a warning about the growing crime of real estate title theft. that's what happens when a home or pr
the two were discussing how to handle repaying national enquirer publisher david pecker for squashing allegations by former playboy model karen mcdougal of her alleged affair with trump. but just how damaging the recording can be for trump's defense remains unclear, having reported evidence with donald trump's voice is pretty evidence against him. >> i don't think that the president first of all, said enough, said enough that that is damaging. >> whether the former president will...
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so at one point hope hicks sends a message to michael cohen and she's asking for david pecker's cell phone. oh, your eyebrows, i don't know if you know that. i wish we could have been on camera, his eyebrows went up to his hairline. >> that's a very big deal. >> hicks says, i have it but i think it's wrong. then she sends one, because apparently that was a number he called from that morning. so they affirm, apparently, and they redacted it. people shouldn't go looking for his private phone number. the prosecutor says why did you ask for pecker's number. hope hicks, because mr. trump wanted to speak to him. all the lines are being drawn together, not just hope hicks to michael cohen, but then to david pecker to donald trump. >> i think that as a prosecutor, you have times when you're trying a case where, you know, you don't want to say things could not be going better. i'm sure adam can understand this. this is one of those times that the evidence just starts lining up and you want to get out of there as quickly as you can. you're getting what you need, and later on you'll tie it up f
so at one point hope hicks sends a message to michael cohen and she's asking for david pecker's cell phone. oh, your eyebrows, i don't know if you know that. i wish we could have been on camera, his eyebrows went up to his hairline. >> that's a very big deal. >> hicks says, i have it but i think it's wrong. then she sends one, because apparently that was a number he called from that morning. so they affirm, apparently, and they redacted it. people shouldn't go looking for his...
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. >> john: the prosecution question hicks about david pecker and peppered with stories that were published in the final days of the campaign. nate foy is live outside the new york state supreme court what can we expect when court gets underway in a few minutes? >> john, hicks testimony is said to go on under examination but t donald trump posted on true social saying a lot of that presented today have nothing to do in his opinion with the actual case that has to do with his recording of the expenses and the payout to stormy daniels but regarding hit's testimony that is said to be resuming in court at 2:15 p.m. now prosecutor michael angelo asked her as you mentioned about her learning of the karen mcdougal story and the release of the "access hollywood" tape. hicks testified she tried blocking the publication of an article detailing how american media purchased the mcdougall story but did not publish it. hicks testified she remembered seeing pecker at trump tower prior to the 2016 election but she did not recall participating in a meeting. hicks also testified when the "access hollywood" t
. >> john: the prosecution question hicks about david pecker and peppered with stories that were published in the final days of the campaign. nate foy is live outside the new york state supreme court what can we expect when court gets underway in a few minutes? >> john, hicks testimony is said to go on under examination but t donald trump posted on true social saying a lot of that presented today have nothing to do in his opinion with the actual case that has to do with his...
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he lied to her, and then she called david pecker at ami. and david pecker went with the story. hey, this is a legitimate contract that we had with karen mcdougal to do magazine covers, and what was significant about that is donald trump then followed up with hope hicks and said what did david pecker tell you, right? in other words, donald trump wanted to know is david pecker sticking to their cover story, this had nothing to do with hush money. i thought that was a really important point for the prosecution to bring out. it's also showing that hope hicks is pretty credible here. she really didn't know anything about these hush money payments. she's trying to find out information. they're not telling her what's going on. that was made all the more credible by when she testified, she said i was hired four years out of college. i was hired to be the campaign press secretary sort of as a joke. i had no experience, but then i was around the campaign a lot, and so i got that title, right? she's there every day. she's talking to donald trump, but she really wasn't part of the inner ci
he lied to her, and then she called david pecker at ami. and david pecker went with the story. hey, this is a legitimate contract that we had with karen mcdougal to do magazine covers, and what was significant about that is donald trump then followed up with hope hicks and said what did david pecker tell you, right? in other words, donald trump wanted to know is david pecker sticking to their cover story, this had nothing to do with hush money. i thought that was a really important point for...
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pecker wind, no hope picks a spoken to david pecker he seems to be pretty involved here. >> is that fair i think that's fair yes and no. >> there have been a lot of testimony that all of the communications between davidson coal and cohen trump wasn't involved even hope hicks kept some things from them until the last moment, but i think they can't credibly go to the jury and say get you know, president trump didn't know anything about any of this, wasn't at all concerned and all that. that's not a cogent defense strategy at goje defense strategy would be have a few prompts do it, but one of them is a defense strategy and theory of defense. they can eat all of this evidence and say at the end of the day, there was no crime either. there was no misdemeanor in here because he believed davidson's testimony that this money was for a settlement, not pay off, then the businesses entry was either correct or pretty close to correct. and not with an intent to defraud. there's no misdemeanor, therefore, no predicate or any felony or technical defense. the grand jury never identified what the ta
pecker wind, no hope picks a spoken to david pecker he seems to be pretty involved here. >> is that fair i think that's fair yes and no. >> there have been a lot of testimony that all of the communications between davidson coal and cohen trump wasn't involved even hope hicks kept some things from them until the last moment, but i think they can't credibly go to the jury and say get you know, president trump didn't know anything about any of this, wasn't at all concerned and all...
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today she testified she could not run for a specific meeting with president trump and david pecker she was a part of but she remembers conversations on phone calls between them which was negative for other candidates people like ben carson and others, ted cruz so she has a lot of information a lot of knowledge about that but did not say she was in the 2015 meeting at so many people and the prosecutors feel is really critical to this entire case. she has also been asked quite a bit about the access how i would take how they came to find out about it, what was the conversation in the campaign was there panic? was she aware of reaction to the tape? and this is one of the things that defense has fought about again and again to give it away from the jury. they are hearing about "access hollywood" tape again. is it probative of what the case is actually about which is allegedly falsifying business documents with respect to a payment to stephanie clifford known as a stormy daniels it is the kind of thing you have to think the defense will tack down to their list of things they will talk about
today she testified she could not run for a specific meeting with president trump and david pecker she was a part of but she remembers conversations on phone calls between them which was negative for other candidates people like ben carson and others, ted cruz so she has a lot of information a lot of knowledge about that but did not say she was in the 2015 meeting at so many people and the prosecutors feel is really critical to this entire case. she has also been asked quite a bit about the...